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We talked inappropriate work relationships, racially charged pop music, maintaining an independent practice when working for institutions, Michelle’s obsessive projects about Agent Dale Cooper from Twin Peaks and a guy named Matthew Stromberg, women with authority, curating + gender, and more.

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This week on A Cups, Angela interviewed two badass women-in-charge: Michelle Levy (artist, curator and Director of Elizabeth Foundation for the Arts Project Space) and Sally Szwed (curator and Creative Time’s Program Manager). There was some sound interference from a neighboring studio in the beginning of the episode + also our laughter is occasionally a little loud and overbearing in this one, sorry!! Thanks so much to the Radiohive for hosting A Cups! We’re taking a hiatus for a while….check out our past episodes on iTunes! You can listen to them over and over again til our triumphant return in Summer 2014?!?! <3 <3

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Also did we mention that Ann won Coco’s shoes?! And oh yeah, because we’re so sad that Angela is moving, we also discussed what we’d miss if we moved away from New York.

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This show we talked about dating curators, whether or not Chris is an artist, public access tv, the art market, being radically accessible to your fan base, performance personas, misogyny in comedy, and being asked to make out with a 500 pound woman for a TV show. Chris is all over the place- from performing at the Upright Citizens Brigade Theatre, to writing about how he lost his virginity + other personal and frequently embarrassing stories in his autobiography A Bad Idea I’m About To Do, to creating a bizarre + highly participatory public access show, to writing intimate advice columns for his community.

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This week on A Cups, Ann and Angela talked with veteran improv performer, comedian, actor, writer, and public access television genius, Chris Gethard.









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